I, 40+, am cycling on my mums 30+ year old Dutch Gazelle bike through 800+ year old sleepy town Süchteln and snapping this photo with my 1+ year old iPhone while waiting at the traffic light. Is this the pinnacle of bus design? When does a designed object actually turn into an old-timer and what kind of quailities does it take to make this happen ? And are there any mass produced items, presently made, with enough stamina to develop a little bit of patina?